International Pedophile and Child Emancipation
Just wanted to let you know what’s out there. Information purposes
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Ipce, originally known as
International Pedophile and Child Emancipation, was founded in the early 1990s
and later changed its name in 1998 to distance itself from its full name. By
2005, it had 79 members across 20 countries and maintained websites in English,
French, German, and Spanish. Initially a forum for scholarly discussions about
mutual relationships between children or adolescents and adults—framed from an
unbiased, human rights perspective—its role shifted over time into functioning
primarily as a library of resources.
The organization has explored
ethical considerations, distinguishing "pedophilia" (feelings) from
"pedosexuality" (acts) and adopting the principle "First, do no
harm," supplemented by "and do not take the risk." A Finnish
journalist, Matti Virtanen, attended Ipce's 2001 Berlin meeting and reported on
it in a TV documentary. The meeting included discussions on the challenges
faced by pedophiles, such as societal judgment, legal disparities across
countries, and the impact of research suggesting that sexual contacts between
adults and children might not always be harmful—though this view has faced
backlash.
Key points from the meeting
included ethical guidelines proposed by Ipce's chair, such as requiring the
child to initiate and end relationships, avoiding sex as a trade, and
abstaining from sex with children altogether. While the organization focuses on
responsible discussion and self-help peer groups, the journalist noted a
troubling assumption among participants that children inherently desire sex,
which could undermine their logic if disproven. Ipce meetings were described as
free of illegal activities, emphasizing a focus on responsible engagement
rather than unlawful behavior.
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2. Ipce (formerly International Pedophile and Child Emancipation,
changed its name in 1998 to disassociate with the full name). Founded in the
early 1990s; in 2005, it had 79 members in 20 countries. The organization has
websites available in English, French, German, and Spanish.
Ipce started as a forum
for people who are engaged in scholarly discussion about the understanding and
emancipation of mutual relationships between children or adolescents and
adults.
In this
context, these relationships are intended to be viewed from an unbiased,
non-judgmental perspective and in relation to the human rights of both the
young and adult partners.
In the course
of time, the function 'forum for discussion' has gradually ended. The remaining
result is Ipce as a large library:
this web site.
Ipce has had a
long discussion about ethics:
The conclusion is in terms of concepts: Make a distinction between ‘pedophilia’
meaning: feelings, and ‘pedosexuality’, meaning: acts.
The conclusion in terms of ethics is the statement: “First, do no harm”,
followed by: “and do not take the risk”.
1. A Journalist reported about Ipce
A Finish journalist, Matti Virtanen, has visited the Ipce
Meeting in Berlin 2001. A new Finish member tells us that he was there to
prepare a TV documentary that has been broadcasted in Finland. The new member
was so kind to find and to translate the script of the documentary in short,
but the Ipce part of it in full text. Here it follows. Some corrections
have been made.
We might remark that the text is nearly a good advertisement for Ipce, or at
least a more or less objective report made by a critical journalist, not being
a real member.
It was a TV documentary by the Finnish state Broadcasting
Company, the documentary series "MOT" by journalist Matti Virtanen (http://194.252.88.3/motweb.nsf/sivut/virtanen/
), the man that was in Berlin. The program, titled "Child sex
network", was aired in Finnish television on 9.10.2001.
The program "MOT" is famous for trying to create
scandals, and not always checking their facts too well. Anyway, some of their
documentaries have been very accurate and good and created very much discussion
in Finland. The "Child sex network" program was not one of the better
ones. The Berlin meeting was just one part of the program.
All the notes below are from the manuscript of the actual
program, I found the manuscript at the following address (in Finnish) (
< http://194.252.88.3/motweb.nsf/sivut/ohjelma?opendocument&pageid=
Content53AB3 >)
1. The program begins with a description of a man in
Finland who tried to get money to monitor chat rooms for young people, he
didn't get the money but turned out to be a child rapist...
2. The journalist goes in on a chat site and pretends to be
a young girl, a man starts chatting with the "girl" and they arrange
a meeting. The journalist phones the man and tells that it was a fake and
interviews him.
3. The journalist interviews Finnish and Swedish police and
a representative for the Swedish "Save the Children" organization.
4. The journalist has found two Finnish internet sites with
boy-love-content. He had e-mail contact with the webmasters of these sites and
shows the sites on TV. One of the sites contains lots of pictures of boys in a
Finnish school that can be identified. Just normal pictures.
(The head master of the school actually arranged a crisis
meeting for the parents after this program was aired, but the parents
unanimously saw nothing wrong with the pictures and asked the headmaster to
stop panicking! Anyway, both these internet sites went offline because of the
program but today they are online again)
5. The Ipce-part of the
manuscript
"Among the hundreds of pedophile internet sites that
caught ones eye, there is one were the discussion is more legitimate. An
organization called Ipce has collected a lot of literature on the subject.
There are no pictures on the site and no links to child pornography.
It is possible to become a member of Ipce by application.
We constructed a fake identity, a middle aged man who is interested in
traveling and art photography. We produced an internet site for him and wrote a
polite application for membership to the Dutch Ipce leader Frans.
He is a doctor of educational sciences with an extensive
experience in helping troubled children. He has organized peer support group
therapy in his home country Holland, with the idea to prevent pedophiles to
sink into depression, commit suicide or engage in criminal activity. The
results are said to be good: the risk of repeated offence in abuse crimes is
lower than in forced therapy conducted by psychiatrists or psychologists.
Our fake internet site was good enough for admittance into
Ipce. For a membership fee of 20 Euros we were allowed to participate in the
discussions by the elite of pedophiles, at first through e-mail and later in
real life.
The annual Ipce meeting was held in June in Berlin. About
20 pedophiles from different parts of the world gathered at a hotel favored by
backpackers. Among them several doctors; medical doctors, sociologists, former
teachers, several computer specialists, students and a couple of journalists.
The vast majority presented themselves as boy lovers, but there was also some
who likes small girls more. To this category can we also count the only woman
in the group.
I tried to be as open as possible, I admitted to being a
journalist, but I did not admit that I was doing a documentary for television.
Regardless of this, my presence was rightfully considered suspicious. I also
did not have the nerve to speak about my own sexuality, because I did not want
to be under suspicion for being abnormal.
Filming or recording of the meeting was out of the
question. The following is based on my notes.
[...] The organization used to operate under the gay and
lesbian organization ILGA, but was thrown out in the end of the eighties.
The beginning of the meeting resembles very much a therapy
session where everyone tells there life story and the happy and not so happy
moments from the last year.
There are not many happy moments to tell about. Almost all
the participants have at some point been in trouble with the law, even if they,
according to themselves, have never done anything wrong to the children. So,
how have they become pedophiles? Almost everyone say that they were born this
way. This leads to the conclusion that the problems are to a great extent
caused by society, who judges and limits the sexuality of children and
"intergenerational relationships", as they are defined. One of the
participants tells that he has been trying to commit suicide recently.
Many of the participants have been forced to move abroad
because of the bad publicity they have got at home. Especially the English
speaking countries seem to be distressing places for pedophiles. In the UK and
USA the mentality is very close to witch hunt. Germany and Holland are
considered to be more open minded.
Lets take a minor sexual offense as an example:
masturbation in the presence of small boys at a summer camp. In Germany you get
away with a fine of few thousand Euros, whereas in the US you can go to jail
for several years for the same offence.
The results of scientific research interest the
participants. The discussion is especially intense about an article in the
publication of the American Psychologist Union. The article concludes that
sexual contacts between adults and children are not at all so damaging to the
child as is generally thought. Especially for boys these encounters are often
positive or make no difference to the boy.
Unfortunately the American psychologist society has
withdrawn its support for the article as a reaction to political pressure.
There is disapproving at the meeting: the freedom of research is in danger if
the editor of a scientific publication acts on the basis of moral hysteria.
Another interesting research have shown that as much as 25%
of normal men get excited by child porn. If this is the case, pedophiles can
consider themselves almost normal.
During the Ipce meeting there is also an interesting
discussion about ethics. Chair Frans presents his principle: the child has to
make the first move and the child always has to have the right to end the
relationship. Sex is never a trade issue, i.e. it is wrong to buy a child. It
is also wrong to ask the child to keep unreasonable secrets.
The chair thinks that the last point is most difficult,
because the culture we live in considers a sexual relationship between an adult
and a child unquestionably wrong. He recommends abstinence from sex with
children for all pedophiles.
At the meeting the UK journalist Tom O'Carrol was also
present, who's book from 20 years ago is the "bible" for pedophile
activists. He thinks its unreasonable to tell all young pedophiles that they
will never have a chance to fulfil their dreams. If a minor participates in sex
out of own will and the sex does not harm him or her, what wrong could there
be?
The meeting also closes the accounts and approves the
budget. At the end of the meeting the host organisations pedophile groups
present themselves. There are peer groups according to the self-help model in
almost every bigger city in Germany.
The discussion is continued in the evening at a restaurant
in Berlin. I wait in vain for the discussion to turn to child contacts or
distribution of child porn. Ipce is an organization for responsible pedophiles
and there are nothing illegal going on at the meetings.
The weekend at the pedophile meeting was confusing to me.
The thing that bothered me the most was that there seemed to be no doubt what
so ever among the participants that children want sex. If this assumption is
proven wrong, the logic of the pedophile activists will collapse like a house
of cards."
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